On this week’s episode of Tying it Together, nationally known journalist from "The Atlantic" David Graham joins host Tim Boyum to discuss his new book. 

The Durham-based journalist just released “The Project: How Project 2025 is Reshaping America.” Project 2025 is a 900-page document of policies drawn up by a group of conservatives, some in Trump’s first administration, and the Heritage Foundation.

It includes how to make independent agencies respond to the president, move employees to become political employees and how to challenge things one thinks might be unconstitutional, Graham says.

He’s been at "The Atlantic" since 2011 and covering President Donald Trump since 2015. He says the U.S. is a good “first look.”

“We are a good indicator of where the world is going,” he said.

From the origins of Project 2025 to how it’s potentially playing out, Graham goes in depth into his study of the controversial conservative playbook.

Graham says he can connect about 40 of the executive orders to Project 2025 playbook.

“People didn’t believe Project 2025, but they also didn’t believe Trump would do it, but then he started appointing people within his administration,” Graham said, adding that they’re following the playbook very closely.

Family structure, gender and education are still some of the things in the air with the project and Trump, according to Graham. But he said only time will tell.

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